UPDATE: Violence-inciting comments disappear from LifeSiteNews
I was a bit amazed yesterday at how quickly word spread of the comments on a LifeSiteNews article on the firebomb left at a Wisconsin Planned Parenthood.
Obviously, as word spread in the pro-choice community, the anti-choice folks caught wind. Some of the comments, essentially the most openly criminal, have disappeared from the site. Either lifesite took luke-warm action (many comments still exist, included below) or the worst of the commenters, Isaiah541, decided to to try and cover up his/her attempts to incite violence in the anti-choice community.
Below is various screen shots of remaining comments (not nearly as inflamitory as the deleted comments) as well as screen captures showing the official comment count of the story at “29” and the actual comment count in the comment section at “21” indicating that comments have been removed or deleted.
Keep in mind LifeSite has any pro-choice comments deleted within hours of their appearance on the site. LifeSite heavily moderates their comments and they knowingly let the now deleted comments stay posted on their site, visibile to the several people who viewed the page. The story was shared on facebook over 360 times, imagine if each of those shares had a minimum of 50 friends? Easily over 18000 people could have read comments that encouraged violence against abortion care facilities and providers.
I fear for escorts, volunteers, patients, staff, and physicians at facilities around the country (and now more and more abroad in countries where abortion was previously not contested) if the current culture of violence against abortion care goes unchecked and unnoticed.
To see original post: Disturbing Trend…
Below is image showing the official comment count associated with this article.
Now, look at the actual count of comments that are visible. Comments have been either removed from the site or deleted by the author. The count is 21.
Now, a sample of the remaining posts. While they are in no way as incriminating as the original posts, they still suggest that it might be OK to use violence to prevent women from obtaining abortion care.
This last one upsets me, especially when you read the responses One of the commenters shared a story of a female family member who had an abortion under coercion (an unwanted, forced pregnancy choice is a tragedy. Coercion in any form is a tragedy). How is it I, an evil pro-choicer, can feel more sympathy and empathy for than woman than a “loving” anti-choicer?
AGAIN: If you ever witness any sort of comment or discussion where violence against clinics and clinic staff is being encouraged, please take a screen shot and submit an FBI tip. Print a copy of your screen shot or submit it to our blog for a permanent record.
(via bebinn)
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This is good news! Apparently my PP isn’t doing this but check out yours to see if it is!
(Source: feroniaproject.org)
Homemade Device Explodes At Wisconsin Planned Parenthood Clinic
by Robin Marty
A small bomb exploded at Planned Parenthood’s Appleton North Health Center in Wisconsin, according to numerous news reports. The Green Bay Press Gazette reports that a “small, homemade explosive device” was placed on a windowsill of the clinic at around 7:30 p.m. Sunday night, causing damage as well as small fire.
The clinic, one of very few in the the state that provides abortions, has been a constant target of anti-choice activists, from Lila Rose attempted “undercover video ‘stings’” to Pro-Life Wisconsin’s “Empty Manger Christmas carols” and other stunts. With the amount of attention being put on the clinic, and the escalating frenzy to try and block a woman’s right to abortion, it was likely only a matter of time before a violent act happened there.
The incident also points to a disturbing and increasing trend of clinic violence. This would be the fourth case of incendiary devices being used as a weapon against clinics and supporters in the last eight months. Last August, a suspect firebombed a clinic in McKinney, Texas. On New Year’s Day, a clinic in Florida was firebombed in the early morning hours by a homeless man believed to be sympathetic to the anti-choice protesters who frequented the health center. And just last month, a Texas state senatorknown for her Planned Parenthood advocacy had her office in Fort Worth firebombed during working hours while the office was full.
And clinic violence just in the state of Wisconsin itself has become a major issue. Ralph Lang has been in jail since May, still awaiting trial for his alleged attempt to kill a Madison abortion doctor.
Bombing clinics is obviously becoming the favorite activity for anti-choice extremists, and for every thwarted plot like North Carolina’s Justin Moose in 2010, we’re now seeing multiple successes.
(via motheatenmusicalbrocade)
What Marcia Ball wrote yesterday on the Seeing Red Texas rally’s FB page about continuing the Tuesday protests indefinitely.
[NB: All of this affects more people than just cis women]
Marcia here: It’s so exciting that SEEING RED will continue on Tuesdays apparently indefinitely. For me, during the next two weeks it’s hi-ho, hi-ho, off to work I go, so I won’t be there to rouse the rabble but my carload of signs will be and my insidious comments. Honestly, with every claim Perry makes about the amount of services the Women’s Health Program isn’t losing and how they’re goingto find the money but not how they’re going to open clinics to replace the ones that have closed, I just start SEEING RED all over again. Please carry on and I will be back April 10, April 17 and April 24. Noon to 2 PM. Congress Avenue and 11th Street. Maybe Kay Bailey Hutchison will join us.
If you can only write to one State Representative this week, I suggest Rep. Wayne Christian, R-Center who says, “we kind of blend being anti-abortion with being anti-Planned Parenthood”. I might add, and you don’t care who gets hurt while you do it.
My reasons for jumping into the Women’s Health Program fray had nothing to do with Planned Parenthood. I just couldn’t believe that we could sit by and watch a bunch of zealots destroy a perfectly good system of health care delivery to low-income women. But now, more than ever, I believe that Planned Parenthood deserves my support.
From the Guttmacher Institute: Abortion is a common experience: about one in three American women will have had an abortion by the time she reaches age 45. In 2008, there were 1,793 abortion providers in the United States. Thirty-four percent (611) of these providers were hospitals and nineteen percent (341) were private doctors’ offices but these providers only performed five percent of abortions done that year. And I’ll tell you why. Because you need money to get an abortion at a hospital or doctor’s office. That’s $350 - $550. And I’ll wager that many women who have the money don’t go to their regular doctor for an abortion but to one of the 840 clinics where abortions are available. Almost two-thirds of insurance companies cover abortion to some degree. Only poor people can’t get abortions easily. And now they can’t even get birth control or a pap smear.
So, people like Wayne Christian, who can vote to end health care for Texas women based on his veneration of all life but who is apparently also pro-death penalty, should drop their insurance, penalize their hospitals and fire their doctors just in case one of them is affiliated with an abortion provider.
HonestlyI’m already wearing the brightest, red-est shirt I own. See you down there!
TODAY
NOON - 2PM
TEXAS STATE CAPITOL
WEAR RED. BRING SIGNS.
(Source: keepyourbsoutofmyuterus)
I’m literally so happy I’m crying.
OKAY SO. I’m back from my very first Planned Parenthood journey, and I have to say, I’m a great mixture of emotions. Ranging from overjoyed and happy and thrilled and grateful to angry and bitter and frightened and downright pissed—very varying degrees of emotions, but don’t worry, I’ll unpack them.
First of all, I want to kick myself for not going to Planned Parenthood sooner. I had NO idea the help I would find, and I’m still just sitting here with an overwhelming sense of gratitude because this place was literally one of the best things to happen in my life.
I’m getting the ParaGard, because it’s the only IUD they offer anywhere nearby (that I can afford!) but it wont be in for a few months, so I was immediately distraught by the fact that I will STILL have to continue buying my monthly Nuva Ring for $70 because my health insurance apparently hates anything to do with my vagina. (Seriously, OBGYN costs skyrocketed, along with my birth control, when we switched insurances. Wtf?) BUT, instead of being forced to pay this continual fee until I could get the IUD, I was instead asked, “Do you want three Nuva Rings?”
I was at a loss for words.
“What, like, free?” I stuttered out. The receptionist nodded, and I nodded back numbly. I mean sure, there’s plenty of men and women who have benefited from this wonderful organization before, so what I’m saying is probably nothing new, but I was just so shocked. That’s $70 a MONTH I am saving! That’s gas! That’s saving back for the apartment! That’s food!
I wasn’t charged a DIME for my visit—since they base it on income, and I make $200/wk, they adjusted everything. I had a breast exam, which I’ve never had before, and was taught how to perform one on myself. They did a minor pelvic exam since I’d been complaining about some pain, and they gave me a boatload of condoms (I don’t use them myself, but I’d like to keep a stock to give out to teens who might not be in the position to buy them themselves) PLUS they hooked me up with Ella—a Plan B pill, just in case, which would save me $50 in case of an emergency.
By the end of my visit, I was in tears, and the nurses were very kind. One even gave me a hug. I was crying because I was overwhelmed with how happy I was, because what they had done for me meant the WORLD to me. Expecting to pay WAAAAAAAAAAAAY more than I did, and getting $210 in free birth control, I donated $20, and would like to go back and donate more when I can.
I’m pissed though, that people want to take away these resources from men and women. I am SO pissed, and horrified. Because of my pain, they insisted on doing other tests (STDs—I’m not at risk, but they had to because of the pain and exam, so whatevs) and those still didn’t cost me anything—so for people who DO need the tests, they’re free… and PEOPLE WANT TO TAKE THIS AWAY. The clinic I went to didn’t even perform abortions, simply referrals, and I only saw one pamphlet on the wall about abortion, compared to the dozens of others about pregnancies and how to have a healthy pregnancy, etc. I mean, not that I doubted what I’ve heard in the past, but it was all a reaffirming of the facts I’d been given, now put into real-life experiences.
I got a free pelvic exam, a free breast exam—I got my birth control, and I got precautionary “just in case” methods. Planned Parenthood is a beautiful place, and I want to punch absolutely everyone who hates them for the 3% of what they do in the face!
DON’T GET ME WRONG, I totally understand people who can’t get access to these things—transportation, distance, location, etc. It’s just, for those it helps, and for those who are able to benefit from it, holy FUCK is it awesome.
But if you DO go and you have an AWESOME experience like me, I do request that you make some kind of donation. These places deserve it. And just, goddd.
I’m such a jumbled mix of emotions I can’t sit still, and I’m still crying over how happy I am. OH. And best of all? I probably wont have to pay a dime for my ParaGard when the time comes!
THANK YOU SO MUCH PLANNED PARENTHOOD.
teerreeffiiiccc submitted:
http://gianna-and-faith-prolifegirls.tumblr.com/post/19795756114
You may not know this but in 2008, PP performed over 300,000 abortions! Not only is the graph totally true and not at all a lie in anyway, whatever you say is wrong because I have god on my side.
I wish that infograph had actual sources. But I won’t argue it because there’s no point. I don’t care how many abortions Planned Parenthood performed (3% of all of its services). There’s nothing wrong with safe abortions. Beyonce is on my side and that’s all that matters. :)

I’m not really sure what they think they’re proving with a pie chart like this. Anyway, from a PolitiFact article, on a slightly different antichoice claim, they examine similar information and why it’s basically useless:
[…]
All stated that roughly 98 percent of Planned Parenthood’s services to pregnant women consist of abortion. They derived their information from a March 2011 fact sheet from Planned Parenthood. That fact sheet says the group performed 332,278 abortions in 2009, referred 977 patients to other agencies for adoptions, and provided prenatal care to 7,021 patients.
[…]
But there are problems with that calculation.
First, it assumes that pregnant women only go to Planned Parenthood for one of those three options.
Planned Parenthood representatives say that interpretation overstates the ratio of abortions among its pregnant clients. It ignores other statistics, such as the 1,158,924 pregnancy tests the group provided, and the fact that those 332,278 abortions were just 3 percent of the 11,383,900 total procedures that Planned Parenthood health centers provided that year to its 3 million patients.
Thirty five percent of its services consisted of providing contraception and another 35 percent consisted of testing for sexually transmitted diseases and treatment.
The fact sheet stats also don’t reflect the fact that only a tiny proportion of Planned Parenthood centers around the country provide prenatal care - just 63 out of more than 800, said Tait Sye, a spokesman for the organization. Those that don’t offer prenatal care refer pregnant women to other health care providers for those services, and Planned Parenthood doesn’t keep track of those referrals. And the 7,021 figure for prenatal clients that was used in the calculations doesn’t include pregnant women who went to Planned Parenthood for prenatal care and were sent to outside obstetricians.[…]
The most important part, of course, is that only a small percentage of Planned Parenthood clinics have the equipment available on site to provide prenatal care and they don’t keep track of the thousands of people they referral to other clinics. So these numbers aren’t truthful and they’re not giving the whole picture.
And in terms of adoption services, it can’t really be seen as being the fault of an organization that people go to adoption agencies for such services instead of a health clinic. They provide the services their patients need and want, they can’t force them to come to PP for adoption information to increase their numbers to your liking.
If these are the types of things you want to insinuate about PP are you also concerned about all the ob/gyns who predominantly offer prenatal care that aren’t meeting a particular quota of your liking for adoption and abortion referrals? No? Interesting. How about examining adoption agencies to see how many pregnant people they give abortion referrals to? That’s what I figured.
What the above pie chart does is make it look like these three services (abortion, adoption, and prenatal care) are the only thing PP offers and that abortion is the majority of what they do. But actually those three types of services are only a small percentage of their services, the majority of which are preventative:

And lastly, 300,000 PP abortions is next to nothing compared to the total number of abortions (1.21 million), let alone annual live births (~4.1 million) in the United States. Honestly, keep your fear mongering pie charts to yourself because 300,000 people getting safe medical care in a sterile, professional environment is not something I’m ashamed of.
P.S. You know what else is larger than the 300,000 abortions you’re crowing over? 584,000. That’s the number of unintended pregnancies PP helped prevent in 2010.
Several executives leave Komen after controversy
DALLAS (AP) — At least five high-ranking executives with the Susan G. Komen for the Cure breast cancer charity have resigned in the aftermath of the organization’s decision to eliminate its funding for Planned Parenthood.
The departures include three officials from Komen’s Dallas headquarters, as well as CEOs of affiliate groups in Oregon and New York City. The chairman of the foundation also stepped down from his post, though he will remain on the board. Although some cited personal reasons, the resignations suggest that Komen is still in turmoil, even after reversing course and restoring the money to Planned Parenthood.
[…]
A dispatch from Texas, the front line of the war against women [*]
She knew she was supposed to be careful about getting pregnant, although truthfully she didn’t think it could happen because of her blood pressure and kidney problems. The nurses at the county clinic started her on the pill, but her blood pressure went all crazy. They asked her to come back on a Wednesday night when the doctor was there. The doctor asked lots of questions and spent a lot of time with her. It was nice to see a doctor care so much.
The Wednesday night clinic was where the nurses sent you when they needed the doctor’s help. It took two buses to get to that clinic and she had to wait an hour after it closed for her boyfriend to get off of work so he could pick her up, but she went because the nurses were so insistent.
The doctor (so young, she looked right out of medical school) asked her to stop the pill, something about the estrogen. The doctor tried to talk her into an IUD. Said it was the safest thing. But it sounded scary and some ladies at church said it caused abortion, so she wasn’t so sure about that.
Eventually she agreed to the Depo-Provera shot. Made her bleed all over the place for a while, but after a couple of shots she stopped getting her period altogether so that was okay.
Her boyfriend got a job in a new city, so they moved. She didn’t have a car, and even if she did she couldn’t afford the gas money to go back to the county clinic where she used to get her Depo shot. The nurses there were very nice and she was sure they would have looked the other way seeing she now lived in a different county. But they told her about Planned Parenthood. She could get her Depo there. She was so excited when she realized it was only six blocks from her apartment.
When she called to make an appointment for her Pap and Depo she was told Planned Parenthood couldn’t accept her Medicaid. Wasn’t allowed to accept Medicaid. Some law. “But I don’t want an abortion,” she said.
“Doesn’t matter,’ the receptionist said. “The government of Texas refuses to let any state tax dollars go to Planned Parenthood. You’ll have to pay for the visit and your Depo, but we do have a way to reduce the price for you.”
Even then it was a lot of money. More than she had right now. She called several doctors, but no one accepted Medicaid. “Doesn’t pay enough to cover our expenses,” they said.
And then one thing sort of led to another. She got a job at the Wal-Mart, but only part-time, so no health benefits. She needed the money to pay for her blood pressure pill. And food. Her boyfriend’s job wasn’t as many hours as they’d hoped. She bought condoms when she had the money, but stopped after a while. Deep down she had always thought she couldn’t get pregnant. The doctor at the county clinic told her not to count on it. The doctor said she had delivered many women who never believed they could get pregnant.
The sound of the doctors at her door brought her back to the here and now. She went to the emergency room the night before with the worst headache she had ever had. The look on the emergency doctor’s face when he saw her blood pressure was almost comical. And the swelling, he’d wanted to know how long it had been that bad.
He told her she was probably six months along. That she had something called preeclampsia. Her kidneys couldn’t handle the stress of being pregnant. When they got her to labor and delivery the OB said she needed to have the baby. As soon as possible. It didn’t matter that she was so early. She could have a stroke and her kidneys might fail. They told her that her baby had a 60-70% chance of surviving.
Her headache was a little better. The medication to bring down her blood pressure helped. The contractions hurt, but they weren’t that bad. She listened closely to the doctors at the door. They were talking about her ultrasound. She thought the lady who was doing the scan had taken a long time. She’d even called someone over to look at the screen. Something about not enough fluid so it was hard to see.
Only one doctor came in. A lady. She walked like she was in charge. She pulled up a chair. Her face looked a lot softer up close. “Your ultrasound has some findings and I need to talk with you about them. We know the fluid is low. We knew that from the initial scan we did last night. We talked about that this morning. But this latest ultrasound is more detailed and gives us more information. Your baby is smaller than expected. That could be from your blood pressure, but there is something else. Some problems with the bones in the skull. You were taking a blood pressure medication and it looks as if there are some birth defects.” The doctor paused.
“What does that mean for my baby?” She thought it sounded odd to say those words, my baby, out loud. A baby she didn’t even know she was carrying until yesterday. A baby she thought she could never have.
And that’s when she started to cry.
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*I hate the “war on women” rhetoric for a number of reasons, but this story HAS to be told far and wide. I don’t want to see a SINGLE person victim blame this woman or say she should have “kept her legs closed” or “known better.” Poor people are allowed to have sex. People with chronic conditions are allowed to have sex. All of the blame is on the politicians of Texas who decided their games with health care mattered more than this woman’s LIFE. That because she was poor and needed Medicaid her life and health were disposable and up for debate (the same thing that happens every day with the Hyde Amendment). They decided because she was unfortunate enough to need assistance that they had the right to butt their noses into her business and prevent her from going to Planned Parenthood. There is so much fail in this story and I doubt this woman is alone; there are probably hundreds, if not thousands, of people suffering in Texas right now. And now that the WHP is gone it WILL get worse.
Also, here’s a story from the comments:
I have high blood pressure (among other health concerns) and have since I was 18. I have also never wanted children. However, because I don’t meet their “eligibility” requirements, I cannot find a doctor who will sterilize me. Two attempts to insert an IUD were unsuccessful and traumatic. I became pregnant while using condoms, then ended up paying $750 for an abortion at a private clinic (PPH wouldn’t take me because of my blood pressure) and because my blood pressure was so high they couldn’t perform the procedure until it was under control and by then it was the second trimester. If I had continued with the pregnancy I risked further blood pressure problems, kidney damage, and damage to the fetus so I would need to go to a high risk pregnancy specialist which I couldn’t afford, even with the insurance I had. The doctor said he suspected that my blood pressure went even higher because of the pregnancy, but when I said I didn’t want to have children he still tried to convince me that what I needed was an IUD or Depo because I might change my mind one day. I have tried Depo and had terrible migraines the whole time.
Because doctors and politicians are so convinced that women don’t have any idea what’s going on with their bodies and deep down they all want to procreate, they have made reproductive care prohibitive in so many ways. If the doctors I had talked to for the past five years had listened to me and believed that I knew enough about my own mind and body to know that I wanted to be sterilized, I wouldn’t have had to spend the time off work and all my savings to terminate a pregnancy I couldn’t sustain even if I had the desire.
I feel for the woman in your article and it breaks my heart to think of what she went through, and chills me to know that I could have been in her place so easily.
POSTED BY | FEBRUARY 26, 2012, 12:59 PM
Today In Anti-Choice Terrorism: The Firebombing in Texas (Shakesville)
The always brilliant Melissa McEwan:
There are a lot of things that don’t get called terrorism in this country, but chief among them is the anti-choice movement, which is the most brazen, unapologetic terrorist campaign in the US, its co-ordination and orchestration done right out in the open, where no one in the media or politics will call it what it is. It is an inherently violent ideology, backed by a decades-long campaign of intimidation, harassment and violence directed at abortion providers and abortion seekers, that is ignored by one party and mainstreamed as a central plank of its party platform by the other.
And still, every goddamn episode of blatant terrorism against women’s clinics is treated like an isolated fucking incident.
Last night, Democratic Texas State Senator Wendy Davis’ office was firebombed, ten days after participating in a Planned Parenthood rally.
(Source: keepyourbsoutofmyuterus)
I was having a really hard time finding Planned Parenthood, but then I noticed a bunch of angry people standing around holding signs.
Thanks, anti-choice!
I’d be lost in New Albany without ya!
This ^^ reminds me of this:

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I’m making a static page of facts and statistics for the blog so they’ll be easily accessible both to me and my followers. So far I’m addressing:
Planned Parenthood’s services and countering antichoice myths about them, birth control costs, abstinence-only sex education doesn’t work, the truth behind the contraception mandate and the Affordable Care Act, unintended pregnancy, safety of legal versus illegal abortion, safety of pregnancy/maternal mortality rate, the truth behind: Live Action/Lila Rose/Abby Johnson/Priscilla Coleman/The Silent Scream/David Reardon/Obama and “infanticide”, reasons for getting abortions, who gets abortions, other important demographic data about abortion, abortion procedures (both legal and illegal), state restrictions and laws, court cases in regards to reproductive rights, reproductive rights and human rights, incidence of abortion and other trends, number of abortion providers, antichoice terrorism and violence, PASS, abortion and breast cancer, the effects of antichoice protesters on abortion patients, the adoption and foster care systems, embryonic and fetal development, fetal pain/consciousness/”brain waves”, fetal homicide laws/UVVA, reproductive coercion and birth control sabotage, Margaret Sanger, “black genocide” theories and why they’re racist, CPCs and deception, studies about viewing ultrasounds and products of conception and how they don’t change minds, the history of abortion, abortion in animals/nature, where to find reputable information for research/legislation/fact checking.
Is there anything else people want to know about? Any myths or antichoice memes you want addressed? Anything you need facts about?
It’s happened again, guys. Another pro-life blog has posted and Elie Wiesel quote.
“I swore never to be silent whenever and wherever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.”—
- Elie Wiesel, Holocaust Survivor
We have dealt with this asshat-ery before at PCG. Elie Wiesel, who you have correctly identified as a Holocaust survivor, said this when asked specifically about abortion and the raging debate about reproductive health care:
What should be done is to give back the human proportion to the abortion issue, and when we see it as such we may be able to have much more understanding for the woman who chooses it. Women who choose abortion are consistently labeled killers, and I personally have been compared to Hitler and called a great murderer.
A woman who feels she cannot go on, and with pain and despair she decides that she has to give up her child, is this woman a killer? Really really. But look, you cannot let these words hurt you. You have to be strong not to pay any attention because those who do that call you a Hitler and relate it to the Holocaust prove that they do not know what the Holocaust was.
Did you see those bolded parts? The man who actually went through the Holocaust says that anyone who makes the comparison to abortion immediately reveals their ignorance. He also said that, because he is pro-choice, he has been “compared to Hitler and called a great murderer.” Take a second to think about the fact that pro-life people have actually compared Elie Wiesel, the Holocaust survivor, to Hitlerbecause of this misguided and ignorant comparison. What does it say about your stance that a Holocaust survivor and well renowned intellectual has both come out to strike down the comparison and been compared to the man who was responsible for the genocide of his people? Elie Wiesel is an amazing person. Do not misappropriate his words to fit your cause. Take this as an invitation to re-examine the pro-life crowd.
—Maria
Yeah, I’m thoroughly disgusted every single time this is done. And they refuse to accept how despicable these comparisons are. Usually it goes something like this:
[My sarcasm might be TRIGGERING]
Prochoice: Abortion is first and foremost about the right to privacy and bodily integrity. Without the right to make decisions about one’s life, body, and reproduction, one cannot say they are truly free.
Antichoice: NOPE. HITLER!!!! Abortionists are just like Joseph Mengele! Abortion clinics are like gas chambers! Pro-aborts are NAZIS!!! Seriously, you’re just like Hitler. He said the Jews weren’t people and now you’re saying that about zygotes!
Holocaust Survivor: Well actually, that’s a disgusting comparison that completely ignores the significant differences between my entire family (and the 11 million people murdered in the Holocaust) and non-sentient, non-autonomous embryos. You’re being racist and offensive and essentially proving you know nothing about the trauma inflicted on my people under Hitler. Please stop.
Antichoice: SHUT UP!!! You don’t know what you’re talking about! I’m helping you, can’t you see?! You’re just like Hitler, you know! This is exactly the kind of thing Hitler and the Nazis would have said! What do you know anyway? If you can’t see how Planned Parenthood is EXACTLY like Auschwitz than you obviously weren’t paying attention.
Me:

A message on critical thinking for “Pro-lifers”
I just saw the quote from Margaret Sanger about how she said the most merciful thing a (large) family can do is to kill the an infant again. You can’t use this as an argument.
Here’s a lesson on why: Your Pope was a Hitler Youth. Your Pope was deeply involved in an organization that rounded up millions of people based on race, religion, sexual orientation, disabilities, and anything else they didn’t like with the sole purpose of killing them.
Now stop for a second. What are you about to say? What are you thinking? Are you thinking, “But that was years ago!” or, “He didn’t have a choice!” Because you’re right. It was years ago and he didn’t have a choice.
So you acknowledge the fact that context is important. Why isn’t it important for Margaret Sanger? You acknowledge that choice is important for the Pope, why isn’t it important for women today? You’re thinking that we can’t use a person’s past against them, the same is true for Margaret Sanger (and Planned Parenthood.)
Margaret anger said that in the 20;s, about large miner families where many of the children died painful and slow deaths before their first birthday. Context is alwaysimportant, don’t pretend it’s not.
Stop lying. Stop manipulating. And stop thinking that people are too stupid to find out some facts, because they’re not.
Yeah, this always rubs me the wrong way. 1) it’s the genetic fallacy and 2) Sanger was a product of her time and no one on our side is trying to claim she was something she wasn’t. She said plenty of really blatantly bad things, so why take other things out of context that actually aren’t that wrong? It makes you look underhanded. Like the merciful quote. How many of you antichoicers have actually read the quote in context and know what she was actually saying?
From a past post: [cis-centric]
She was being facetious not prescriptive. How about you actually look at the original source in context before talking about something you know nothing about? Was Margaret Sanger perfect? Hardly. She did and said a lot of things which were and still are unacceptable. But she was also a product of her time. Even people we like and hold in high esteem, such as Gandhi, have held racist attitudes. Further, if you bothered to read this chapter from her book you’d know she was talking about how in the early 1900s excessively large families increased the morality rate for subsequent children, by quite a bit actually. This was due to a lack of resources and/or the health toll on the woman of enduring multiple pregnancies which, of course, affects the health of the newborn. This is far from a heartless passage in the book. In fact she’s expressing worry and horror about what impoverished women and their families were facing during that time period.
[…]
The outrage upon the woman does not end there, however. Excessive childbearing is now recognized by the medical profession as one of the most prolific causes of ill health in women. There are in America hundreds of thousands of women, in good health when they married, who have within a few years become physical wrecks, incapable of mothering their children, incapable of enjoying life.
“Every physician,” writes Dr. Wm. J. Robinson in Birth Control or The Limitation of Offspring,” knows that too frequent childbirth, nursing and the sleepless nights that are required in bringing up a child exhaust the vitality of thousands of mothers, make them prematurely old, or turn them into chronic invalids.”
[…]
If its effects upon the mother and the wage-earning father were not enough to condemn the large family as an institution, its effects upon the child would make the case against it conclusive. In the United States, some 300,000 children under one year of age die each twelve months. Approximately ninety per cent of these deaths are directly or indirectly due to malnutrition, to other diseased conditions resulting from poverty, or, to excessive childbearing by the mother.
The direct relationship between the size of the wage-earner’s family and the death of children less than one year old has been revealed by a number of studies of the infant death-rate. One of the clearest of these was that made by Arthur Geissler among miners and cited by Dr. Alfred Ploetz before the First International Eugenic Congress. 2 Taking 26,000 births from unselected marriages, and omitting families having one and two children, Geissler got this result:
[chart from link goes here but won’t format on tumblr]
Thus we see that the second and third children have a very good chance to live through the first year. Children arriving later have less and less chance, until the twelfth has hardly any chance at all to live twelve months. This does not complete the case, however, for those who care to go farther into the subject will find that many of those who live for a year die before they reach the age of five. Many, perhaps, will think it idle to go farther in demonstrating the immorality of large families, but since there is still an abundance of proof at hand, it may be offered for the, sake of those who find difficulty in adjusting old-fashioned ideas to the facts. The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it. The same factors which create the terrible infant mortality rate, and which swell the death rate of children between the ages of one and five, operate even more extensively to lower the health rate of the surviving members. Moreover, the overcrowded homes of large families reared in poverty further contribute to this condition. Lack of medical attention is still another factor, so that the child who must struggle for health in competition with other members of a closely packed family has still great difficulties to meet after its poor constitution and malnutrition have been accounted for.[…]
A fact sheet from Planned Parenthood that explains many of her quotes which are often taken out of context can be found HERE. [The quote in question is on page 4].
And another fact sheet that gives some background and context on her and her work can be found HERE.
Governor Perry, WHP Has Been a Lifeline for My Family. Why Are You Eliminating It?
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My name is Rene, and I am graduate student. I am also on the WHP. I’ve been a WHP patient for five years. My mom was diagnosed with cervical cancer when she was my age, while pregnant with my sister — this means I am at a 2-3 times increased risk for cervical cancer than other women. Because of my family history, I need to get a check-up every year.
My sister is a college student and also on the WHP. She needs contraception to keep her ovarian cysts under control. Because of the WHP and Planned Parenthood, we can focus on our studies instead of worrying about paying for contraception and cancer screenings.
Basic health insurance costs are out of reach for most college students since we work full- or part-time and keep up a full class load. Many of the women on the WHP are college students like myself, trying to better their lives with a higher education. We shouldn’t have to choose between paying for a cancer screening and paying our bills while we’re trying to further our education.
I know people stereotype people that use programs like the WHP, saying things like “They need to get a job and not rely on the government,” but college students are some of the hardest working people I know. My generation was told by our parents and teachers that we need to go college to follow our dreams and to ensure we would be financially stable in adulthood. Here we are trying to do just that and people criticize us, somehow believing that it’s possible to make enough money in college to pay all of our bills, focus on school, and still afford health insurance or medical care. That’s just not realistic for college students who work entry-level jobs just at or above minimum wage.
It’s important for lawmakers to realize that just having a job doesn’t mean you can afford health insurance. Basic health insurance for most students I know is over $150 a month plus co-pays for visits and medications. I don’t know many students who can afford that, pay their bills, and still get good grades.
When I heard about the possible demise of the Women’s Health Program I was shocked to see the attacks on women’s health hit so close to home. I searched online to try and see if there was a movement to help save this program. My search came up empty, so I decided start a petition myself, and spread it the best and fastest way I knew how, through email and social media. We have now gathered nearly 1,000 signatures from women and men that think Texan women deserve affordable access to basic women’s healthcare.
Many times injustice happens because people think “What can one person do?” But I believe one person can make a difference. Sandra Fluke stood up for women and brought the issue to light that women have a right to representation in Congress in regards to their health care. She was an inspiration for me. I knew I had to try and make a difference, be it with 50 signatures or 5,000. Each one is a voice to try and save the WHP, a voice saying “I think Texan women deserve access to basic women’s health care.”
Women in Texas need to have a choice when it comes to their medical providers. If Planned Parenthood is cut from the plan, many women will be losing care from a place we’ve come to know and trust. (And the fact is that many parts of Texas lack comprehensive clinics, and where they do exist, they’re already overwhelmed. For many women, Planned Parenthood is their only place to access affordable quality care.)
Planned Parenthood discovered my mother’s abnormal Pap, arranged for further testing, and arranged for the removal of her cancerous cells. She went to them when she was pregnant to find out how far along she was and where to go for further prenatal care. Planned Parenthood was there for my mother, and now it’s there for my sister and me. I know I can rely on Planned Parenthood when it comes to staying on top of my increased risk for cervical cancer.
A few years ago, in the name of fighting cervical cancer, Gov. Perry signed an executive order mandating HPV vaccinations for Texan girls. In a September 2011 presidential debate, Perry stated that “Cervical cancer is a horrible way to die” – yet he is moving to end cervical cancer screenings covered by WHP for over 130,000 Texan women. We are asking him why. The women of Texas are waiting for your response, Rick. And no, we aren’t talking about abortion – don’t change the subject – we are talking about cancer. We are talking about women’s lives.
And this is about women’s lives. Here are just a few of the comments left on my petition:
“I use[d] to go and get my annual check-ups at Planned Parenthood. I live in El Paso, TX and all of our clinics have been shut down due to the lack of funds. I am self-employed without any medical insurance. It has been so difficult for me to get reasonable medical care. This issue represents a problem not only for indigent women but for the female population in general. Something needs to be done.”
“I’m a low income woman, I already have one son, I love him very much. I remember how hard it was to raise him without a job, and even though I have one now, it’s just not enough. I need the PP services [such as pap smears] [provided by WHP]…I [also] want to live to a decent old age and I use BC to make sure I do not bring another child into this world until I AM READY.”
“When I lost my job I used the women’s health program. If it were not for this program I would not have been able to afford the follow up exams that I needed after I had an abnormal Pap smear.”
And this last one is short but maybe the sweetest: “Dude, Where are my rights?”
Some of us may have thought that women were done fighting for their rights, but it’s time to stand up again. I’ll leave you with a quote by women’s suffragist Alice Paul in which I’ve found strength. I would like to remind my fellow Texans that you have a right to a voice when it comes to women’s lives and women’s health: “There will never be a new world order until women are a part of it.”
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*Not just cis women will be affected by the cuts, nor are they the only ones to utilize the WHP’s services.
Republican-Controlled Arizona Legislature On Cusp Of Defunding Planned Parenthood
Arizona is the latest battleground in the conservative war on women as the state legislature appears poised to strip funding from the women’s health care provider Planned Parenthood.
Earlier this week, an Arizona Senate panel approved HB 2800 on a party-line vote. The Arizona Senate Committee on Healthcare and Medical Liability Reform’s move came on the heels of support from the Arizona House, which approved the legislation earlier this month.
If HB 2800 is indeed passed by the full Senate, Gov. Jan Brewer (R) is expected to sign the legislation into law, stripping state funding from any group such as Planned Parenthood that performs abortions.
Unfortunately, the move would have a pronounced impact on poorer Arizona women who rely on places like Planned Parenthood for many of their health care needs. As the following chart shows, abortion accounts for just 3 percent of the patient care provided by Planned Parenthood. The other 97 percent included mammograms, STI treatment, and other health services.
If passed, Arizona will join a growing list of Republican-led states to cut funding for Planned Parenthood. The largest was Texas, who last year stripped the women’s health provider of approximately $47 million in state funds. As a result, 12 clinics were forced to shut their doors, many in rural areas with few other health care providers. Other states, such as New Jersey and Wisconsin, have taken away funds as well.
Former Surgeon General Richard Carmona, who is running for Arizona’s open U.S. Senate seat, criticized the state legislature, calling the Senate panel’s approval was an “extremely misguided” decision. “As a longtime health care professional,” Carmona told ThinkProgress, “I can say without hesitation that restricting access to reproductive health care is detrimental to the health and safety of women. Period.”
Arizona state law already prohibits using tax dollars for abortions. The real effect of HB 2800 would be to take away necessary health care services to low-income Arizonans.
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*Not just cis women utilize the reproductive health services of PP.
Here comes broken-record Jasper. Planned Parenthood is a vital resource, especially for low-income people and people of color.
Women’s Health [people other than “women” can and do utilize these services]
Includes:
- birth control
- emergency contraception
- checkups for reproductive and sexual health problems
- gynecological exams
- pregnancy tests and pre-natal care
- routine physical exams
Men’s Health [people other than “men” can and do utilize these services]
Includes:
- checkups for reproductive or sexual health problems
- colon cancer screening
- erectile dysfunction services, including education, exams, treatment, and referral
- jock itch exam and treatment
- male infertility screening and referral
- premature ejaculation services, including education, exams, treatment, and referral
- routine physical exams
- testicular cancer screenings
- prostate cancer screenings
- urinary tract infections testing and treatment
- vasectomy
General Health Care
Includes:
- anemia testing
- cholesterol screening
- diabetes screening
- physical exams, including for employment and sports
- flu vaccines
- help with quitting smoking
- high blood pressure screening
- tetanus vaccines
- thyroid screening
- STD testing, treatment, and vaccines
- Planned Parenthood health centers focus on prevention: 76 percent of our clients receive services to prevent unintended pregnancy.
- Planned Parenthood services help prevent more than 584,000 unintended pregnancies each year.
- Planned Parenthood provides nearly 770,000 Pap tests and nearly 750,000 breast exams each year, critical services in detecting cancer.
- Planned Parenthood provides more than four million tests and treatments for sexually transmitted infections, including HIV.
- Three percent of all Planned Parenthood health services are abortion services.
- Planned Parenthood affiliates provide educational programs to more than 1.1 million young people and adults each year.
But, yeah, defunding Planned Parenthood is the epitome of pro-life.






